The Talisman is the quiver answer to the days that escalate past what your everyday board can hold. Pulled-in tail, drawn-out outline, the rocker and rail volume to manage steep drops without the unwieldy paddle of a full 7'6"+ rhino chaser. This isn't a step-up — it's a true gun in miniature, built for the surfer who is already paddling out when the buoy reads double.
WHAT IT WANTS
Overhead-to-double-overhead reef and point. Bigger Lowers, Blacks on a winter west, holding-up Cloudbreak. The mini-gun bridges the gap between a step-up and a full big-wave gun.
SKILL LEVEL
Advanced surfers ready for serious surf without the full commitment of a true gun.
WHAT IT'S NOT
Not a daily driver. Not a small-wave board. Specifically tuned for serious surf with real consequence — if the swell isn't there, ride a different shape.
HOW IT'S DESIGNED
The bottom contour shifts deliberately as you move from nose to tail. A flat nose section paddles into waves before they jack; a single concave through the midsection drives water under the lead foot at speed; a double concave through the tail splits flow behind the fins for predictable release on the bottom turn. Medium entry rocker keeps paddle speed alive through the takeoff window; high exit rocker keeps the board alive through the long flat middle of a wave that has already broken once. Foiled forward of center for paddle, not weighted under the back foot like a daily shortboard.
THE RAILS
60/40 rails through the midsection give a forgiving rail-to-rail feel when you're loading speed into a long bottom turn. The last 12" of the tail goes hard — releasing water cleanly at the speeds a gun actually sees on a real day. Hard rails through the front 12" too, so the rail engages quickly when you set your line on a doubled-up takeoff.
THE DESIGN
A gun pulls in nose AND tail for late-drop control on steep, fast-moving faces. Stiffer rocker than a daily-driver shortboard, narrower plan-shape, all measured tuning that biases drive over loose response.
Custom builds are tuned to your dims and surfing style. Talk to Blake about specifics.
+ Not sure which size? Calculate your volume
Volumes are starting points, not rulebooks. Conditions, stance, and style all shift the math.
STOCK DIMENSIONS
Mini guns aren't volume-shopped the way shortboards are; you size for the conditions, not your everyday wave-count. The shorter end of the range is the lighter-rider or head-to-overhead version. The middle is the one most travel-oriented surfers will want. The longer build is for heavier surfers or surfers stepping into double-overhead reef breaks. Volume on a gun reads differently — it's distributed forward to drive paddle, not centered like a shortboard. Don't compare these volume numbers directly to your daily driver.
Featured sizes cover the core-liters range (40–53L) most of our customers land in. Need a size outside the band? Expand All sizes or start a custom order for a specific dim.
| Length | Width | Thickness | Volume |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7'0" | 19.75" | 2.69" | 40.0L |
| 7'1" | 19.81" | 2.69" | 41.1L |
| 7'2" | 19.88" | 2.75" | 42.2L |
| 7'3" | 19.94" | 2.75" | 43.3L |
| 7'4" | 20.00" | 2.75" | 44.2L |
| 7'5" | 20.06" | 2.81" | 45.3L |
| 7'6" | 20.13" | 2.81" | 46.5L |
| 7'7" | 20.19" | 2.88" | 47.7L |
| 7'8" | 20.25" | 2.88" | 48.9L |
| 7'9" | 20.31" | 2.94" | 49.7L |
| 7'10" | 20.38" | 2.94" | 51.0L |
| 7'11" | 20.44" | 3.00" | 52.2L |
| 8'0" | 20.50" | 3.00" | 53.5L |
+ How to think about dims
Paddle vs. control on the drop. Go shorter than 7'2" and you start giving up rail line that buys calm on a steep drop. Go longer than 7'10" and the board commits hard to the line and won't let you reset for the second turn. The sweet spot for most surfers in the SoCal-to-Indo trip range is 7'4"–7'8".
Width. Width sits between 19.75" and 20.50" across the catalog — narrower than a shortboard for the length, intentionally. Width on a gun adds drag at speed without adding hold, and when the wave is doing the work for you, you want as little drag as possible.
Between sizes? Size up in length (not just volume) when you're building this for a heavier-water trip. The extra rail line buys you calm on a steep drop more than the extra liter does.
Don't see your size? Message Blake
FIN SETUP
Quad stock. Futures boxes. Quads at this length and outline give you the down-the-line speed needed for fast, steep walls without the looseness of a thruster. The shape is built around quad geometry; thruster conversions aren't recommended.
Need help picking templates? Read the fin guide, then start a conversation — Blake's happy to talk it through before you lock the build.
Recommended Fins
Guns live in the deep rake band — drawn-out templates for sustained hold and confident drive through big-wave faces. Pivot-leaning fins fight the board's design intent.

Channel Islands Tri Large
Large· HexcoreDrive / Hold
True Ames's CI-collab thruster scaled to Large — hand-foiled hexcore with the area + rake a gun shape wants for sustained drive through big-wave faces.
Shop True Ames →Not sure which fin template is right for you? Rake, area, flex, and construction all change how a board feels.
Read the Complete Fin Guide →RAKE SPECTRUM
Where each recommended fin sits between drawn-out rake (heavier arcs, more hold) and tight pivot (vertical release, modern shortboard turning). Mid-rake (neutral) is the balanced default.
Drawn-out arcs. Power, hold, drive through long-line turns.
Balanced — drive plus pivot release. The everyday HPSB default.
Tight, vertical release. Modern shortboard pivot off the top.
- FCS IIPerformer Largerake-leaning
- FuturesF8 Honeycombrake-leaning
True AmesChannel Islands Tri Largerake-leaning- NVSJL Thrusterrake-leaning
On a gun, the spectrum reads: rake = drive and hold under heavy load, the only place to be. Pivot-leaning fins compromise the late-drop confidence the shape is built for.
WHAT TO PICK
Guns live in the deep rake band — drawn-out templates for sustained hold and confident drive through big-wave faces. Pivot-leaning fins fight the board's design intent. Per-fin picks for this model are coming — message Blake for current recommendations.
SPECS REFERENCE
Full Build Specifications
Stock dimensions, rocker, bottom contour, rail profile, fin positions, recommended fins by brand, and shaper notes for shapers and partner shops.
CONSTRUCTION & PRICING
Starting at $1,050 + tax
Every Talisman (Mini Gun) is built to order in San Clemente. Pick a finish tier below; customize further in the next section.
Clear Resin Sanded
4-6 weeks
Functional finish, fastest turnaround. PU blank, polyester resin, sanded off the lam.
Resin Tint Sanded
6-8 weeks
Color both sides of the board in the lam, then sand it smooth.
Tint Gloss + Polish
8-10 weeks
Top-tier finish. Resin tint plus a gloss coat polished to show-quality.
Foam + Resin options
Customize your build
AESTHETIC
STRUCTURAL
25% deposit today, balance due on completion. Timeline reflects current queue — confirmed on order.
GO DEEPER
Every construction call links to a full guide. Start with the essentials:
Board Details Checklist
Everything we need from you to begin your custom build.
Learn more →
Foam & Resin Types
Understanding the materials that make up your board's core and shell.
Learn more →
Fins — A Complete Guide
Single fins to thrusters, base systems, sizing by weight + wave, and how to pick across True Ames, NVS, Futures, and FCS.
Learn more →
Gloss + Polish vs Sanded Finish
The final touch that defines how your board looks and feels.
Learn more →
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
What size Talisman should I get?
Tags: `sizing` `dim-selection`
> Most surfers in the SoCal-to-Indo travel range land between 6'10" > and 7'2". Lighter riders or head-to-overhead-only conditions can size > down toward 6'8". Heavier surfers or anyone building this for > double-overhead reef and outer-island boat trips should look at 7'4" > or longer. > > The math you use on a daily shortboard doesn't transfer cleanly. A > mini gun's volume is foiled forward of center, so a 36-liter Talisman > paddles differently than a 36-liter shortboard. Don't compare gun > volume directly to your everyday board. > > Send me your weight, where you're planning to ride this, and what > you're already on for daily surf — I'll work the dim with you before > you lock the build.
Thruster, quad, or 5-fin convertible — which should I pick?
Tags: `fin-setup`
> Thruster is stock for a reason. Hold and drive on a long bottom > turn, predictable release in the pocket, no surprises when the wave > doubles up on the drop. That's the gun-canon expectation and what > most customers should run. > > Quad runs faster down-the-line and rewards a setup more weighted to > point-break or long-walling reef. Worth thinking about if the trip > you're building this for is mostly point-style surf — a Mexico > right-hander, a Tahitian reef on a smaller day. > > Five-fin convertible keeps both options open from the same board. > Cleanest if you're building one travel quiver gun and want > versatility without two builds. The trade-off is a slightly heavier > finished board (more boxes = more weight). > > Specific fin recs across Futures / FCS II / True Ames / NVS are > coming with our fin-recommendations release. Until then, start the > custom order and we'll work the recs together.
What waves is the Talisman actually built for?
Tags: `wave-range` `use-case`
> Overhead to double-overhead, with shape and push. Real-day reef > breaks; clean point-break walls; outer-island boat trips. Mexico > points when the buoy reads double; the second reef at Macaronis > when it's actually breaking; solid overhead Blacks on a clean West > swell; North County reefs when Salt Creek is closing out at > Whittier's house. > > What it's NOT built for: your daily T-Street session, head-high > Lowers on a normal Tuesday, or knee-to-waist surf where you'd be > better off on a fish. If you're surfing this thing on a normal day > you're going to wonder why your everyday board is suddenly faster > and more responsive than the Talisman — that's correct, and that's > not the point of this board.
Why the flat-to-single-to-double bottom contour? (contour-specific)
Tags: `design` `contour` `hydrodynamics`
> Each section of the bottom is doing a different job at a different > point on the wave. > > The flat nose section paddles cleanly into a wave that hasn't > jacked yet. Concave through the front of the board adds drag at low > speed, and on a gun your priority during paddle is wave-catching — > not loose feel. Flat wins. > > The single concave through the midsection loads the front foot > at speed. Once you're in the wave and on rail, the single concave > creates a clean compressed surface for the lead foot to drive > against. That's where the gun's fastest-line feel comes from on a > long bottom turn. > > The double concave through the tail splits water behind the fins > for predictable release. Coming out of a bottom turn into a top turn, > the double lets the tail break cleanly instead of grabbing or > pushing wash. That's what keeps the board driving when you load it > hard at speed. > > Combined with high entry and high exit rocker, the contour profile > is what makes the Talisman feel committed and confidence-inspiring on > a doubled-up takeoff but still alive through the flat middle of a > wave that has already broken once.
How long does the build take, and how does the order work?
Tags: `build` `process` `turnaround`
> Every Talisman is built to order in San Clemente. Lock your slot > with a 25% deposit; balance is due on completion. > > Gun builds run a bit longer than shortboard builds — the heavier > glass schedule and the rocker / foiling work take more time. Add > roughly 1–2 weeks vs. a shortboard at the same finish tier. We'll > confirm timeline against the current queue when you order. > > The flow: > > 1. Start a custom order on the site or message me directly. > 2. We talk through dim, tail shape, fin setup, glass schedule, and > finish tier. I'll recommend on weight, stance, and the waves > you're building this for. > 3. CNC-cut from your spec, finished by Jack Sykes here at the shop. > 4. Final QC pass. Pickup or shipping arranged on completion. > > This isn't a buy-it-off-the-rack experience and it isn't designed > to be. The customer who orders a Talisman is usually the customer who > wants to talk shop — happy to do that.
How does this compare to a Channel Islands Pro or Pyzel Padillac?
Tags: `comparison` `competitor`
> The Pro and the Padillac are the closest production-line comparables > in the mini-gun category — that's what we benchmark against during > design, and customers asking this question are usually serious about > the spec. > > Where we line up: pulled-in round pin tail, thruster stock, gun foil > with weight forward, designed for the same use case (real overhead > surf, travel quiver, big-day reef). If you've ridden either of those > models you'll feel familiar on a Talisman. > > Where we differ: the Talisman is built to your spec rather than off > a stock pop-out program — width, thickness, volume, tail shape, glass > schedule, fin setup are dialed in for your weight and the waves > you're building it for. We can also push the contour package toward > the kind of surf you're actually going to ride: more drive-out-of- > turns or more hold on a steep face, depending on what you ask for. > > The other piece is the build itself — finished by Jack Sykes at our > San Clemente shop, not pulled from a factory queue. If knowing your > shaper matters to you, that's part of the value.
What glassing options are there, and what do you recommend?
Tags: `glassing` `construction` `defaults`
> Three finish tiers: > > - $1,050 — Clear Resin Sanded. Stripped-back, fastest turnaround. > PU blank, polyester resin, sanded matte off the lam. The default for > customers who want the board doing the work and don't care about > the finish layer. > - $1,200 — Resin Tint Sanded. Color in the resin (not a paint > job), sanded matte. Gives you the visual identity without the gloss > step. > - $1,400 — Resin Tint Gloss + Polish. Top-tier finish. Resin > tint plus a gloss coat polished to show-quality. > > Glass schedule on a gun runs heavier than a daily shortboard. We > default to a 6+4 oz deck and 6 oz bottom — the gun-appropriate > baseline. Lighter is available if you're prioritizing travel weight, > but I'd talk you out of going lighter than 4+4 / 4 on a board you > plan to actually load on a real day. A glassed-too-light gun > chatters and unloads unpredictably when you're driving the rail at > speed. > > See `/build-guide/glassing-schedules` for the full theory.
Can I demo a Talisman before I commit to a custom build?
Tags: `demo` `try-before-buy` `policy`
> I'm currently working on a stock-board / demo program — there isn't > a Talisman in the demo rotation yet because Talisman is a > first-of-category build for us. As soon as a stock build finishes > and goes into the rotation, I'll add it to the program. > > In the meantime: if you're local to San Clemente, come by the shop > by appointment and I'll walk you through the design. Bring your > daily board so we can talk dim. If you're building this for a > specific trip, message me with the trip details and I'll work the > spec around it. > > If you're not local — start a conversation through the contact form > and we'll go through the same conversation by message. The > last thing I want is for someone to commit to a serious-water board > they aren't going to feel confident on; if a custom isn't the right > call yet, I'll tell you that.
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COMPLETE THE QUIVER
“Surf Everyday” means a board for every condition. Your Talisman (Mini Gun) covers overhead to double-overhead— here's what rounds out the quiver.
Building a quiver around the Talisman (Mini Gun)? Start a conversation — we'll build the right boards for how and where you actually surf.
More boards live in the website catalog than at the shop. Visits are by appointment — text or call (949) 750-5067 to look at boards in person or start a custom build.
READY TO START?
Every Talisman (Mini Gun) is built to order in San Clemente — 4–6 weeks on clear-sanded, 6–8 weeks gloss and polish, 8–10 weeks tint-sanded. 25% deposit.
Shop: 106 W Mariposa Unit B, San Clemente, CA 92672
By appointment · 8am–8pm daily · (949) 750-5067

