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Talisman (Gun)

A drawn-outline paddle gun built for the days that change a life.

GUNTHRUSTER / QUAD / 5-FINDOUBLE-OVERHEAD+ TO TRIPLE-OVERHEAD REEFFROM $1,050

The Talisman Gun is built for paddle-in big-wave surfing — the window between a heavy step-up and a true tow board, the size of day where Cortes Bank is a real option from the SoCal coast, where Todos Santos is the destination instead of the warm-up, where Cloudbreak on a serious pulse asks for outline, length, and held rail rather than agility.

WHAT IT WANTS

Overhead-to-double-overhead-plus reef and point. Cloudbreak, Sunset, Backdoor on a forgiving day, big Mainland Mexico. Built for steep paddles, late drops, and holding a line at speed.

SKILL LEVEL

Advanced surfers with experience in serious surf. Gun shapes reward commitment and punish hesitation.

WHAT IT'S NOT

Not a daily driver. Not a small-wave board. Specifically tuned for serious surf with real consequence — if the swell isn't there, ride a different shape.

BUILD DETAILS

Build overview — rocker profile, rail shapes, fin positions. Hover any zone for the per-section call-outs.

Talisman (Gun) contour diagram — rocker profile, rail shapes, fin positions.

HOW IT'S DESIGNED

The Talisman Gun is built around a drawn pintail outline with a wide point centered between the nose and tail. The bottom contour reads double concave through the entry, transitioning to a single concave through the middle of the board, and flattening through the exit — the double splits water through the takeoff for control on the drop, the single loads the lead foot for rail-engaged speed, and the flat exit releases cleanly off the back. Rocker is medium-entry / medium-exit: controlled enough to penetrate face-chop, lively enough to hold a line at speed without bogging through the trough. 60/40 rails through the midsection turn hard in the last twelve inches of the tail.

WHO IT'S FOR

Advanced and expert riders chasing paddle-in big-wave surf — specifically, the rider who has already moved through a step-up and has a clear sense of the wave window they want to operate in. Dimensioning is the entire conversation: the Talisman Gun is built around the rider's weight, the wave size they're chasing, and the specific reefs and points the rider plans to take it to. This is not a board to add to a quiver casually — order it when the calendar already has a swell circled.

THE DESIGN

A gun pulls in nose AND tail for late-drop control on steep, fast-moving faces. Stiffer rocker than a daily-driver shortboard, narrower plan-shape, all measured tuning that biases drive over loose response.

THE RAILS

Pulled rails through the body — harder than a daily-driver shortboard — so the board projects through chop rather than skating across it. Tail rails hold flat in fast water so you can lay one over and trust the line.

Custom builds are tuned to your dims and surfing style. Talk to Blake about specifics.

FIN SETUP

Quad stock. Futures boxes. Quads at this length and outline give you the down-the-line speed needed for fast, steep walls without the looseness of a thruster. The shape is built around quad geometry; thruster conversions aren't recommended.

Need help picking templates? Read the fin guide, then start a conversation — Blake's happy to talk it through before you lock the build.

Recommended Fins

Guns live in the deep rake band — drawn-out templates for sustained hold and confident drive through big-wave faces. Pivot-leaning fins fight the board's design intent.

thruster setup
Futures boxes
FCS II

Drive / Hold

Message Blake for our current FCS II drive / hold pick.

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Futures

Drive / Hold

Message Blake for our current Futures drive / hold pick.

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True Ames

Channel Islands Tri Large

Large· Hexcore

Drive / Hold

True Ames's CI-collab thruster scaled to Large — hand-foiled hexcore with the area + rake a gun shape wants for sustained drive through big-wave faces.

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NVS

Drive / Hold

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Not sure which fin template is right for you? Rake, area, flex, and construction all change how a board feels.

Read the Complete Fin Guide →

RAKE SPECTRUM

Where each recommended fin sits between drawn-out rake (heavier arcs, more hold) and tight pivot (vertical release, modern shortboard turning). Mid-rake (neutral) is the balanced default.

On a gun, the spectrum reads: rake = drive and hold under heavy load, the only place to be. Pivot-leaning fins compromise the late-drop confidence the shape is built for.

WHAT TO PICK

Guns live in the deep rake band — drawn-out templates for sustained hold and confident drive through big-wave faces. Pivot-leaning fins fight the board's design intent. Per-fin picks for this model are coming — message Blake for current recommendations.

SPECS REFERENCE

Full Build Specifications

Stock dimensions, rocker, bottom contour, rail profile, fin positions, recommended fins by brand, and shaper notes for shapers and partner shops.

CONSTRUCTION & PRICING

Starting at $1,050 + tax

Every Talisman (Gun) is built to order in San Clemente. Pick a finish tier below; customize further in the next section.

$1,050

Clear Resin Sanded

4-6 weeks

Functional finish, fastest turnaround. PU blank, polyester resin, sanded off the lam.

$1,200

Resin Tint Sanded

6-8 weeks

Color both sides of the board in the lam, then sand it smooth.

$1,400

Tint Gloss + Polish

8-10 weeks

Top-tier finish. Resin tint plus a gloss coat polished to show-quality.

Foam + Resin options

PU blank + Polyester resin guide

Standard build

PU blank + Epoxy resin guide

+$185

EPS blank + Epoxy resin guide

+$250

Art resin by Bree Poort (@justbree) guide

$1,100$1,700
Customize your build

AESTHETIC

Color / Side guide

Resin Color Swirls / Side (in addition to "Color / Side")

+$75

Resin Color Swirls / Side guide

+$30

Gloss + Polish guide

+$200

Airsprays guide

+50-100+

Custom Printed Logos guide

+60-150+

Volan Deck Patch guide

+$30

Volan Tail Patch guide

+$20

STRUCTURAL

White Carbon Tail Patch guide

+$35

Intricate Stringers guide

>1/2" thick, double stringer or more, wedge stringers, foam strips, t-bands, etc.

+20-100+

Wood / Foam Tail Block guide

+50-100

FIN SYSTEM

Five Fin Setup guide

for use as a thruster or a quad

+50-100+

Glass-on Fins (1-5 fins) guide

including fins

+$150

Resin Leash Loop guide

+$50

25% deposit today, balance due on completion. Timeline reflects current queue — confirmed on order.

Boards we've built

Recent customer builds — every Talisman (Gun) dialed to the rider.

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GO DEEPER

Every construction call links to a full guide. Start with the essentials:

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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

What size should I get for my weight and the waves I'm chasing?

The Talisman Gun is a wave-window board, not a comfort board. The right size is the size that gets you into the wave with one stroke of margin to spare — not three, not zero. As a starting framework, a 175-lb rider chasing solid Todos Santos (15-foot Hawaiian double-overhead-and-up) tends to land in the 9'2" / ~56L range; a heavier rider or someone targeting Pe'ahi paddle or Mavericks-class days steps up to 9'8" / ~63L or 10'2" / ~71L. Lighter riders or West-Coast reef sessions sit at 8'8" / ~50L. None of those numbers are gospel — order to the actual wave window you've circled, talk to Blake before locking the build, and adjust around your paddle fitness.

Why a thruster default on a paddle gun? Doesn't a quad release more cleanly?

The thruster is the safer, more universal default because it gives predictable bite through the bottom turn at speed. When the face is moving fast — and the face moves fast on a real gun day — the thruster's center fin holds when the side fins start to release, so the board tracks the line you set instead of squirreling out from under you. A quad releases more freely and projects more speed down-the-line, which is exactly what some riders want for hollow reef takeoffs at point-style breaks. The Talisman Gun is offered in both setups; 5-fin boxes let you run either from the same board if you want flexibility on the trip.

How does this compare to a Pyzel Padillac?

The Padillac is the modern paddle-gun reference, so the comparison is fair. Both boards run a drawn pintail outline, thruster default, and a build window that starts in the high 7s / low 8s and runs past 10 feet. The Padillac has decades of Pipe-and-bigger pedigree in the John John lineage; the Talisman Gun is built on the same hydrodynamic principles — controlled rocker, foam stacked under the chest, drawn rail, held tail — and dimensioned around the rider's specific wave window rather than off a single shop ladder. If you've ridden a Padillac and liked it, you'll find the Talisman Gun's vocabulary familiar. Talk to Blake about how to translate the dims you know to the build you want.

Why the double concave through the entry, not a flatter bottom?

Two reasons. First, the double splits water on the takeoff — when you're committing to a steep drop, the double channel flushes predictably through the under-chest section of the board so the nose doesn't stall on a chunk of wave-face chop. Second, the double flowing into the single concave through the middle of the board lets the lead foot load a clean surface for rail-engaged speed once the drop is made. A flat entry would paddle slightly faster but would also catch face-chop harder on the takeoff, and a true paddle gun is sized to make the drop survivable, not to win the paddle race. The flat exit on the back third releases cleanly off the back once the rider's into the wave.

Is this a good board for solid Lowers or Trestles on a south swell?

No. The Talisman Gun is the wrong board for that day. A solid south-swell day at Lowers is double-overhead-feeling but doesn't move with the same speed and consequence as a real gun day — you'll find the gun slow, sluggish, and over-volume on a wave that rewards a step-up's quicker rail-to-rail response. The right board for solid Trestles is a step-up; the Talisman Gun is for the session where Trestles is the warm-up before the boat ride out to something bigger. Order this board to the wave you're chasing on the trip, not the wave at home.

How long is the build, and what's the deposit structure?

Every Talisman Gun is built to order in San Clemente. The build queue runs longer than the shortboard queue because the heavier glass schedule (6+6 oz deck / 6 oz bottom) needs more cure time and the hand-finish work after the CNC cut is more involved on a longer outline. The exact lead time gets confirmed on order based on the current queue. Pricing starts at $1,050 for clear-resin sanded; $1,200 for resin tint both sides sanded; $1,400 for resin tint with gloss + polish. A 25% deposit holds your slot at order; balance is due on completion.

What glassing options come standard, and what's the upgrade path?

Stock glass on a gun is heavier than on a shortboard — the Talisman Gun ships standard with 6+6 oz on the deck and 6 oz on the bottom. That's not a marketing call; a paddle gun gets hammered on the takeoff and the rider needs the board to hold its shape over a season of duck-dives through real water. Carbon tail patches are recommended add-ons for the back third of the board, where the stress concentrates in the bottom turn at speed. Volan rail wrap is available; full-color volan and resin pinlines are on the aesthetic side. Talk to Blake about whether you want any of these — most gun riders order the structural reinforcements and skip the cosmetic upgrades, but the choice is yours.

Can I demo a Talisman Gun before ordering?

The short answer is: usually no, because the Talisman Gun is dimensioned around the individual rider's wave window. There's no shop demo board that meaningfully represents what a 9'8" custom build will feel like for a 200-lb rider chasing Pe'ahi paddle. What we do offer is a long pre-build conversation. Talk to Blake about the boards you've ridden in big surf, the wave windows you've been comfortable in, and the one you're trying to grow into — that conversation is the demo. If you're in San Clemente and want to see a finished build in person before placing an order, the shop is open by appointment and Blake will walk you through whatever's on the rack.

Open decision-gating items

- [ ] Q1 — confirm the example sizing framework numbers (175-lb / 9'2" / ~56L, etc.) match what Blake's actually been quoting. Currently sourced from the proposed framework in `talisman-gun.md` §2 — Blake to validate before public launch. - [ ] Q3 — confirm the Pyzel Padillac comparison is the right single-anchor competitor mention for the FAQ. The other competitor anchors (Pat Rawson Pipe Gun, Stretch Quad Gun) are equally valid; the FAQ shows one to keep the answer tight. - [ ] Q5 — confirm the SoCal-grounding example (Lowers / Trestles) reads correctly. Some Lundquist riders are based in North San Diego County (Blacks, Swami's, Cardiff) and may prefer those anchors instead. - [ ] Q6 — populate the actual lead-time range once the gun build queue is dialed. Currently soft-stated as "longer than the shortboard queue" — confirm a target window. - [ ] Q8 — confirm whether the "demo conversation" framing matches Blake's actual intake practice for guns.

COMPLETE THE QUIVER

“Surf Everyday” means a board for every condition. Your Talisman (Gun) covers double-overhead+ to triple-overhead reef— here's what rounds out the quiver.

Building a quiver around the Talisman (Gun)? Start a conversation — we'll build the right boards for how and where you actually surf.

More boards live in the website catalog than at the shop. Visits are by appointment — text or call (949) 750-5067 to look at boards in person or start a custom build.

READY TO START?

Every Talisman (Gun) is built to order in San Clemente — 4–6 weeks on clear-sanded, 6–8 weeks gloss and polish, 8–10 weeks tint-sanded. 25% deposit.

Shop: 106 W Mariposa Unit B, San Clemente, CA 92672
By appointment · 8am–8pm daily · (949) 750-5067